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Goal: Stop the steal of our democracy! 18:03:28 From Allison Shaw to Everyone: Allison, Fort Collins, CO 18:03:34 From Martha Cristin McCraw to Everyone: Goal is to be a true democracy 18:03:35 From Beth M to Everyone: @Tiffany (she/they) got my stickers Thank you!!! 18:03:36 From Robins iPhonef tv to Everyone: Robin Albuquerque//Stop Fascism! 18:03:39 From Marisa Jefferis to Everyone: From Denver, CO 18:03:39 From Diane to Everyone: Diane from chicago 18:03:46 From Melodie Land to Everyone: Melodie from Myrtle Beach, SC. Goal: More training on the basics of civil disobedience and protesting safely. 18:03:49 From pmgibson to Everyone: Pauline Gibson Grand Junction, CO Goal: Get more Dem/Independents into office at the National Level Broxi:👍 18:03:50 From JoAnn Mary Myers to Everyone: JoAnn in Santa Fe New Mexico USA 😆 18:04:05 From Elisabeth to Everyone: Liz, Calumet, OK 18:04:09 From lrowe to Everyone: Lonnie, Spring Valley, California 18:04:17 From pat to Everyone: Pat m, Bailey co. Major ad campaign proving maga líes Broxi:👍 18:04:22 From Martha Cristin McCraw to Everyone: Yes Christian Nationalism has to go now 18:04:37 From Tiffany (she/they) to Everyone: ****Sign up for Next Week's Meeting**** 18:04:40 From Broxi to Everyone: Broxi in Battlement Mesa Colorado 18:04:42 From Bev Boz to Everyone: Bev Lavdas Bozeman, MT B Thomas, Beverly Lavdas:👍 18:04:44 From Debbie Jo to Everyone: Lakewood CO More rallies 18:04:46 From phil to Everyone: in the instructions email, there was no option for joining the zoom session 18:04:54 From phil to Everyone: I had to use last week's one 18:05:11 From Tricia Stevens to Everyone: Tricia Stevens, Metro Denver. Former Congressional Staffer. My goal is to take the things I learned from my time working for The House, and to take that, along with what I learn from Indivisible, and activate those who aren’t already activists. Beth M:👍 NORA EVANS:👍🏼 18:05:41 From Debbie Jo to Everyone: De-escalation training 18:05:55 From Tiffany (she/they) to Everyone: ****Order New Resistance Stickers**** ****Donate to Solidarity Warriors Non-profit**** 18:06:18 From Melodie Land to Everyone: Just ordered some stickers--they look great! 18:06:29 From lrowe to Everyone: Goals: 1) A coordinated communications among the many groups organizing; 2) Prepare for a national General Strike. 18:07:15 From Patrick to Everyone: Patrick, Lakewood, CO, long term goal idea: shine more light on the radical fringe Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation 18:08:02 From Tiffany (she/they) to Everyone: ***RSVP to Solidarity Warriors BBQ*** 18:08:49 From Tiffany (she/they) to Everyone: ***nokings.org*** ***Denver NO KINGS*** 18:09:55 From donald sokol to Everyone: I am new member interested in learning more. 18:09:58 From Debbie Jo to Everyone: Replying to "Patrick, Lakewood, CO, long term goal idea: shine ...": Hello from Indivisible Lakewood CO 18:10:07 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: Hello, I'm Story, aka FightTheDystopia from the General Strike US Dain - GSUS, Jen Grosz (she/her/hers), Cary Morgan:❤️ 18:10:30 From Dain - GSUS to Everyone: HI STORY 18:10:42 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: Hi Dain! 😊 18:10:59 From Patrick to Everyone: Replying to "Patrick, Lakewood, CO, long term goal idea: shine ...": Greetings! 18:11:26 From Honora Wolfe to Everyone: Honora in Lafayette, CO 18:12:03 From Tricia Stevens to Everyone: Replying to "Patrick, Lakewood, CO, long term goal idea: shine ...": Hi Debbie Jo, I’d love to join Meet up Lakewood. Let’s chat! 18:12:10 From Jenna Robbins to Everyone: Short term: increase resistance participants. Protect the targeted. optimally convince congress to impeach. Turn colorado seats when the time comes. Other: keep information flowing, support democratic rights, support the judiciary. Long term: make progress on the upper class taking all the wealth and power. Increase workers rights, social safety nets. Work on equality race, gender, lgbtq etc 18:12:12 From Broxi to Everyone: Replying to "Pauline Gibson Grand Junction, CO Goal: Get more...": Hello from Battlement Mesa 👋 18:12:22 From Debbie Jo to Everyone: Replying to "Patrick, Lakewood, CO, long term goal idea: shine ...": @Patrick https://www.indivisiblelakewoodco.org/ 18:12:24 From Honora Wolfe to Everyone: MAGA folks won’t strike and “disengaged” people with not strike phil:👍 18:12:35 From Tricia Stevens to Everyone: Replying to "Patrick, Lakewood, CO, long term goal idea: shine ...": Thanks 18:13:06 From David, Soc of Oligarch Billionaires (SOBs) to Everyone: Hi, David the SOB: Society of Oligarch Billionaires, Speaking Power to Truth, Holding the 1% upside-down and shaking them until OUR* money falls out. * Many, many $ trillions, since Reagan 18:13:32 From Debbie Jo to Everyone: Replying to "Patrick, Lakewood, CO, long term goal idea: shine ...": @Tricia Stevens https://www.indivisiblelakewoodco.org/ 18:13:32 From Jeanette Baust to Everyone: PRINCIPLE: Indivisible - A WORLD THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE! Chant: Not for a few. Not for some. A world that works for everyone! That's the overall umbrella or tent. Strategies under that can be multi-layered & adaptable in response to what's happening on the ground. 18:13:36 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: It's not stealing, it's open source Debbie Jo:👍🏼 18:14:53 From Honora Wolfe to Everyone: How about a tax revolt? iPhone, phil, NORA EVANS:👌 Mary, Beth’s iPhone, Elisabeth :👍 18:15:43 From iPhone to Everyone: Halting spending ❤️ Debbie Jo, phil, Michele Bertholf, Cary Morgan:👍🏼 18:16:02 From Mary to Everyone: Replying to "How about a tax revolt?": I really hate paying federal taxes being used by Trump and his oligarchs. Morgan, Michele Bertholf:👍 18:16:06 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: Replying to "How about a tax revolt?": There are ways to legally withhold taxes, by doing some bureaucracy and paying it into an escrow account instead. Mary:😃 18:17:03 From lrowe to Everyone: Voting, protesting, and marching Can and DO make a difference. It is not helpful to present this as an either/or situation. iPhone:👌 phil, Michele Bertholf, Morgan, Cary Morgan, Mary:👍 18:17:10 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "How about a tax revolt?": Agreed. I’m okay with paying for other people as long as it goes to help people and not Trumps parade. 18:17:17 From Morgan to Everyone: Replying to "How about a tax revolt?": I think if they are going to take away our social services to starve the government of money to give tax cuts to the rich, then I will support a tax strike. Mary:👍 David, Soc of Oligarch Billionaires (SOBs):👍🏻 18:17:49 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "Voting, protesting, and marching Can and DO make a...": We need to attack everywhere and all the time-be relentless phil:👍 18:18:29 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "Voting, protesting, and marching Can and DO make a...": I this they meant we need to to do more because they don’t respond to shame. 18:18:59 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: Replying to "How about a tax revolt?": GSUS isn't calling for a tax strike, but we are trying to liberate education, learning how to navigate that kind of legal paperwork is for sure included Broxi, Morgan:👍 18:19:13 From Judi to Everyone: Judi from Loveland. My 1st meeting. I'm glad to be here. Beth’s iPhone:❤️ iPhone (3):👌 NORA EVANS:👍 18:19:44 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "Judi from Loveland. My 1st meeting. I'm glad to be...": Hi 👋 make sure you join slack 18:20:58 From pat to Everyone: Nice David! 18:21:26 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: Replying to "How about a tax revolt?": Education liberation definitely includes teaching people to grow food also, and how to engage in community for trade and support etc. 18:23:37 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: Replying to "How about a tax revolt?": There are active projects on fleshing these out into actionable parts, too 18:23:54 From J to Everyone: These seem more like a policy platform than a list of demands - when would we end the strike, based on this list? Morgan, Michele Bertholf:👀 Terrie Sanders Martin:👍 18:24:41 From Cary Morgan to Everyone: Respectfully, I think in order for a General Strike to be successful you need to create the largest possible coalition and having so many massive demands, many of which are highly contested is going to alienate a lot of people who might be willing to take broad risks but can’t reconcile all these demands Morgan:👀 Beth’s iPhone, lrowe, Elisabeth , Terrie Sanders Martin:👍 Debbie Jo:👍🏼 J, Michele Bertholf, Jackie Burt:💯 18:25:21 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "Respectfully, I think in order for a General Strik...": Impeaching Trump should be the priority Sheldon Potter, J, Mary, Sandy- 3702:👍 18:25:34 From Cary Morgan to Everyone: Replying to "Respectfully, I think in order for a General Strik...": Agreed 18:25:46 From Beth’s iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "Respectfully, I think in order for a General Strik...": I agree 18:25:53 From Cary Morgan to Everyone: Replying to "Respectfully, I think in order for a General Strik...": Keep the goals specific to the most immediate threats to our society J:💯 18:26:15 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: Replying to "How about a tax revolt?": Dain that was so thorough, thank you 18:26:19 From SUSAN MACLAREN to Everyone: Thanks Dain! 18:26:32 From pat to Everyone: He was impeached twice , did nothing Michele Bertholf, Elisabeth , annpollack:👍 18:26:45 From Beth’s iPhone to Everyone: Remove Trump Sheldon Potter:👍 18:26:45 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: Dain that was so thorough, thank you Dain - GSUS:❤️ 18:26:52 From iPhone to Everyone: Let’s remember this is a process. There might be trial and error, but at least we’re trying. We don’t lose until we stop trying. Malinda:❤️ annpollack, Terrie Sanders Martin:👍 David, Soc of Oligarch Billionaires (SOBs):👍🏻 Debbie Jo:👍🏼 18:27:17 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: There are a few other active project to get these fleshed out into actionable parts 18:27:42 From pat to Everyone: True, it’s a great step forward iPhone, NORA EVANS:❤️ 18:27:54 From Michele Bertholf to Everyone: Replying to "Remove Trump": Trump is a puppet for foreign and domestic oligarchs—removing him will not get rid of the problem 👀😬 Malinda:👍 18:28:14 From lrowe to Everyone: I agree with Cary. The list at present seems too much and some items are way too vague. Elisabeth :👍 18:28:17 From Dimitrios Gockel to Everyone: The Cuts of federal Workers, Disability rights and health care are very critical in my opinion. Can we focus on one of these and strike on one of these things. Michele Bertholf, Elisabeth :🌟 18:28:29 From cynthia S to Everyone: How long do you anticipate it will take to get to 11 million 18:29:00 From Heather to Everyone: Yes! We need to focus on one huge demand. Save democracy. Broxi:❤️ Elisabeth , NORA EVANS:👍 18:29:10 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: I am a in the strategy team, if you want me to come in have an answer, not to step on toes 18:30:30 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: One of the big lessons we learned from Occupy is that you can’t have all the demands - but they CAN be included in the general ethics of the organization as a way to talk about the desired direction. I think with a strike you need demands that can be met that are actionable - otherwise, the message gets too convoluted. The goal of a strike is to end the strike having achieved specific goals - this is different than a broad range of beliefs. This is just a strategy thing, everything on the list is good, but to achieve the broad coalition necessary it should be SIMPLE. iPhone:❤️ Michele Bertholf, Mary Ann, Broxi:👍 J:💯 18:30:35 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "True, it’s a great step forward": I’m so tired of naysayers-most people here aren’t like that. People need to have a little bit more faith. I get it we need to be practical, but during all movements they had to no idea HOW to get there only an unbelievable amount of passion for what they believed in. 18:30:39 From Michele Bertholf to Everyone: I agree that there are way to many demands—we need a central main demand that sets the foundation for achieving the others. .. Elisabeth , Heather:❤️ 18:30:49 From phil to Everyone: if people getting rights is enough to cause some conservatives to stay home, then so be it. There are more than enough progressives in the country Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them), NORA EVANS, Dain - GSUS:💯 18:31:17 From Cary Morgan to Everyone: Replying to "One of the big lessons we learned from Occupy is t...": Very well put Lauri Lauri Lynnxe Murphy:❤️ 18:32:21 From Cary Morgan to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": That’s not what we’re arguing and I don’t think thats a fair assessment of what might make someone uncomfortable siding with such a large set of demands Heather:👍 18:32:23 From Sarah F to Everyone: I think a general strike should be to remove the traitors and no one would have to vote on which ones and the others become a 'less than'. The entire problem come!s from those in power and THEY are the ones creating chaos 18:32:25 From lrowe to Everyone: The decentralization is a good value up to a point. A successful national General Strike will require SOME centralization in my view. Elisabeth , Heather:👍 18:32:41 From Cary Morgan to Everyone: Yes, agreed 18:33:00 From Melissa to Everyone: I think this is an excellent start and I appreciate all of your work on this! I look forward to helping in any way that I can. I think this is a great idea! Elisabeth :❤️ 18:33:16 From Heather to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": When you divide our purpose into thirty things you are going to lose most people. Also to save democracy we need everyone. Even conservatives you don’t care if show up. Patrick:👍 Cary Morgan:💯 18:33:28 From David, Soc of Oligarch Billionaires (SOBs) to Everyone: Intersectionality is core to the strike. One can join and support some, and not all the objectives; worker rights, tax the rich, and ditching Trump, say, may appeal strongly to more right-wing people, and could engage them. We need to be open to relationships with potential allies who aren't just like us. 18:33:53 From Mary to Everyone: Measurable demands and action towards a return to our democratic principles. David, Soc of Oligarch Billionaires (SOBs):💖 18:34:09 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: That’s a fair point, perhaps, base it off of economics, Heather Cox Richardson had a sit down with someone at the LBJ library this week and she mentioned about halfway through that for solidarity (historically speaking) economics tend to more successful…link to the video here https://youtu.be/ya0reCOcgEs?si=TVJl-ZSp69rQ0hdw Michele Bertholf:👍 18:34:17 From lrowe to Everyone: To offer input and express views is NOT being a naysayer. Why cut off discussion by putting people down who are raising questions? Michele Bertholf, Mary:👍 Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):🩵 18:34:38 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": I think we just need to message to conservatives. Progressive policies are popular. The right wing media does a great job of creating propaganda that demonizes our causes Michele Bertholf:👍 18:34:45 From Lilly to Everyone: I’d love to see boycotts Debbie Jo, Michele Bertholf:❤️ 18:34:47 From Dimitrios Gockel to Everyone: Impeaching Trump is ok. I think the people under him have to take some responsibility also. annpollack, Broxi:👍 18:35:33 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": We just need to be louder and talk in simple-non college level-language. We’re way too intellectual for the general population. phil:👍 18:35:44 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": Even beyond getting people to join in, it’s the media you need to get onboard, and it needs to be stupidly simple. Like “RULE OF LAW” or “BRING BACK HABEUS CORPUS”. But this is about strategy - it doesn’t mean you lose the other goals, it’s about messaging. The protests, similarly should be focused on single issues so that it’s a sound bite. You aren’t giving anything up as a whole, you’re just trying to focus a population with the attention span of a gnat. 😂 iPhone, Heather:❤️ Georgette Wallace:👌 J:💯 Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):🩵 18:36:06 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "I’d love to see boycotts": I love that especially for people who can’t strike. Ex nurses or the disabled Heather:👍 18:36:13 From pmgibson to Everyone: It's more than getting rid of Trump, he is just their (Project 2025) clown Mary, Michele Bertholf, Patrick:👍 Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them), Tiffany (she/they):💯 18:36:25 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "It's more than getting rid of Trump, he is just th...": Exactly! 18:36:48 From J to Everyone: If it's not specifically measurable + achievable in a short time, it's not really a demand we can use as leverage Cary Morgan:💯 18:36:59 From Sarah F to Everyone: Everyone needs to do what you can to encourage others to join the movement. Start wearing "3 1/2%" on your shirt or clothing to events or even daily. We need the numbers to make REAL change. iPhone:❤️ David, Soc of Oligarch Billionaires (SOBs), J, Jenna Robbins, NORA EVANS, Elisabeth :👍🏻 Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT), Jen Grosz (she/her/hers):💯 18:37:11 From J to Everyone: Replying to "If it's not specifically measurable + achievable i...": like, discretely achievable 18:37:18 From Morgan to Everyone: Replying to "Everyone needs to do what you can to encourage oth...": I think there might be a sticker idea in this Debbie Jo:👍🏼 18:37:23 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "Intersectionality is core to the strike. One can j...": This is SO important - it’s about coalition-building around specific goals, no one will agree on everything and that’s ok. Malinda:👍 Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):💯 18:37:27 From J to Everyone: Replying to "Everyone needs to do what you can to encourage oth...": That's a cool idea 18:37:31 From Mary to Everyone: Measurable goal - STOP DEPORTATIONS WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. Lauri Lynnxe Murphy, J, iPhone:❤️ 18:37:35 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "It's more than getting rid of Trump, he is just th...": But if beat the “boss” then we can starting chipping away at everything else with less resistance 18:37:43 From Lilly to Everyone: Will this replay be shared 18:37:52 From Lilly to Everyone: Would love to hear the first part 18:38:02 From Heather to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": @Lauri Lynnxe Murphy so much all this. Lauri Lynnxe Murphy:❤️ 18:38:04 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "Will this replay be shared": Probably tomorrow Lilly:❤️ 18:38:21 From Tiffany (she/they) to Everyone: Yes. You can find our past meetings on our ***Solidarity Warriors YouTube Channel*** 18:38:22 From Morgan to Everyone: Replying to "Will this replay be shared": Yes, it will be on YouTube after the meeting. We will also send a link out in the follow-up email. 18:38:28 From J to Everyone: Replying to "It's more than getting rid of Trump, he is just th...": Of course, but we need a specific demand, and that one is very clear and would 100% signal a shift in the situation back toward rule of law Heather:❤️ 18:38:30 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: Replying to "Will this replay be shared": 🩵🩵🩵 18:38:41 From J to Everyone: Replying to "It's more than getting rid of Trump, he is just th...": specifically, a successful impeachment and removal from office Heather:❤️ 18:38:58 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "Everyone needs to do what you can to encourage oth...": This is a good idea. One thing that people need to understand is that Dr. Chenowith’s research mentions SUSTAINED protest for that 3.5% to work…so just having the number feels more achievable. Elisabeth :❤️ 18:39:07 From iPhone to Everyone: I appreciate all the organizers. I’m sure this is the less work. People are angry at the situation and we take it out on each other sometimes. 18:39:07 From Georgette Wallace to Everyone: Trump is just the “whitehead” of the pimple that has been deeply infected for decades and decades. This is a fight for the long haul. iPhone:❤️ Michele Bertholf:👍 18:39:21 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "I appreciate all the organizers. I’m sure this is ...": *thankless 18:40:00 From Lilly to Everyone: We are trying sociocracy 18:40:09 From Lilly to Everyone: Has anyone tried this 18:40:30 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": @iPhone this is true - we need to make this a working class movement. And as any adjunct will tell you, an education doesn’t mean you aren’t working class! The vast majority of people are struggling! Malinda:👍 18:40:51 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: My recommendation that I’ll toss up on the site afterward is we should introduce philosophy to schools, kindergarten and up, if our ancestors three hundred years ago at ages 5-8 could read and understand the complexities in stories such as money dick, so can’t we still. Elisabeth :👍 18:40:57 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: Moby* 18:41:04 From J to Everyone: 100%, this is great work and I'm very appreciative of what you've been doing and sharing with us @Dain - GSUS iPhone, Malinda, Dain - GSUS:❤️ pmgibson, Jenna Robbins:👍 Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):💯 18:41:41 From Sandy- 3702 to Everyone: I believe this has worked in other countries. I assume taking lessons from them and how they did it...much smaller scale I guess too. Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT), Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them):💯 18:42:39 From Michele Bertholf to Everyone: Mega money in politics is what opened the door to exponential growth of corruption in politics, the judiciary and corporate media—a general strike focused on economics (damage to the wealthy supporters of corrupt politics, like the Tesla takedown and target boycotts) would be a realistic goal I think. iPhone, Elisabeth :❤️ David, Soc of Oligarch Billionaires (SOBs), Mary:👍🏻 Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):💯 18:42:49 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "My recommendation that I’ll toss up on the site af...": This is difficult in schools at the moment…I’ve been doing that work as a teaching artist with kids for years, and schools are less open to it now. But it’s so important - I wonder if there are ways to do it with kids through their parents forming groups? 18:42:50 From Jenna Robbins to Everyone: My thought while listening.....demamd Eliminate citizens united, impeach trump. 2 measurable defined goals that can lead to the other goals. iPhone:❤️ Mary, shawn, Elisabeth , Michele Bertholf:👍 Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):💯 18:43:27 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "My recommendation that I’ll toss up on the site af...": great points-perhaps until we can get into power just being a conscious parent can help. I agree this authoritarian programing is something that starts in childhood. Teaching kids critical thinking in the home. Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):🩵 18:43:49 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to " My thought while listening.....demamd Eliminate c...": I worry that the focus on impeachment isn’t going to lead to removal - he’s been impeached twice. We should instead focus on charges of treason I think… Beth’s iPhone:👍 18:44:21 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "My recommendation that I’ll toss up on the site af...": True - and they’ve been focused on taking over the school boards - we need people to do the same! iPhone:❤️ Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):💯 18:44:25 From Patrick to Everyone: I agree with others who have suggested the demands should be achievable. I think they should also be few, concise, and broadly supported to maximize impact Michele Bertholf, Mary:👍 18:44:41 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: Replying to "My recommendation that I’ll toss up on the site af...": Certainly not impossible, ive been teaching my 8 year old a bit of Aristotle on plants and animals (de animus) and she grasps it, you just need to correlate it to what they understand, for example if I say fast as a huey helicopter, some may understand it while others wont, it’s a matter of choosing the ones they get :) iPhone:❤️ 18:44:47 From J to Everyone: @Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) How could someone join and help? I'd be interested in participating and potentially working up to leading a meeting iPhone:❤️ Jenna Robbins:👍 18:45:23 From Morgan to Everyone: Replying to "Everyone needs to do what you can to encourage oth...": Here is the national website. https://generalstrikeus.com/ 18:45:46 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "Mega money in politics is what opened the door to ...": Excellent. A lot of Trump supporters voted for him to give the finger to the elites. They unfortunately were very misguided. So we could get disaffected Trump supporters, independent, and non voters by focusing on progressive populism Michele Bertholf:👍 18:45:50 From Tom Simpleman to Everyone: Two minutes pleasw 18:46:12 From Jenna Robbins to Everyone: Replying to "@Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) How could som...": Me too. I sent am email to the one that sends the recorded meeting. I bet on may 31st we can really network 18:46:17 From Dave to Everyone: Think of Discord like a group text stream. You know when one person fires of endless pictures of their vacation to everyone else. Kidding! But it offers a lot more than we will be using, at least for now! Morgan:💯 18:46:17 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "My recommendation that I’ll toss up on the site af...": @Lauri Lynnxe Murphy like moms for liberty but for the left? 18:46:43 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": @Heather If conservatives want to come over to our side, that's fine, but if we have to water down and defang the movement to make them comfortable, I fear that our movement will be destroyed, or become ineffective. Most conservatives won't bother to join in, but many progressives will. Dain - GSUS:❤️ Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):💯 18:47:29 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: Replying to "My recommendation that I’ll toss up on the site af...": @iPhone I get the heeby jeebies equating the two lol but in some ways yes, critical thinking will allow them in the future to determine and distinguish truth for themselves from the rest 🩵 18:47:32 From NORA EVANS to Everyone: We would need to be prepared for marshall law, bail money... Broxi, Elisabeth :👍 18:47:51 From pat to Everyone: Sociocracy? Broxi:👍 18:48:11 From J to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": I think the bigger concern is less about turning people off, than focusing on a small number of achievable demands to stop the administration and cause them to step down, so we can return to a democratic process to work on those larger issues iPhone, Heather:❤️ Beth’s iPhone:👏 Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT), Beth’s iPhone:💯 18:48:33 From Dave to Everyone: 🙀 18:48:39 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": @phil non we need to double down on progress policies. I’m just saying most people voted against their own interests -if we MESSAGE or progressive policies as economic populism we will get a lot of support 18:48:43 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: Replying to "My recommendation that I’ll toss up on the site af...": Just to figure out how to teach Nietzche without having kids get depressed to no end if they decide the message from him was one of despair rather than hope in the fact that your free to “life is what you make it” (mostly anyway) 18:48:52 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "My recommendation that I’ll toss up on the site af...": @iPhone maybe less evil! 😅 But people need to run for school board from our side for sure! 18:49:19 From Kathy Knight to Everyone: i love the leaderless idea! seems like a great contrast to white/male/human/spiritual supremacy nonsense. Heather:❤️ 18:49:37 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "Mega money in politics is what opened the door to ...": trump's literally a billionaire and they knew it. I think they're just hateful people 18:50:00 From lrowe to Everyone: Right, you are not alone in being concerned about this. 18:50:28 From Heather to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": @phil when we don’t focus on one, super important cause then we lose all the causes. If we completely lose democracy, none of this other stuff will have a chance. Just like fire fighters put on their gear and then save people, we have to protect our ability to have a voice. J:❤️ 18:50:49 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "Mega money in politics is what opened the door to ...": @phil could be both? 18:51:08 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: I’m less worried about the database than I am where it’s hosted? It’s more about the security part…to that end, I’m not sure I’m that comfortable with AI recording the meetings, given how often techlords have flat-out lied about the use of our data! J:❤️ 18:51:35 From J to Everyone: Replying to "I’m less worried about the database than I am wher...": I've felt uncomfortable with these meetings being recorded for sure haha Lauri Lynnxe Murphy:👍 Malinda:💯 18:52:30 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": I can get behind the one cause of forcing the republicans out of power, but we must ensure that the other causes aren't forgotten. 18:52:46 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "I’m less worried about the database than I am wher...": You don’t have to use your real name or have camer on. Use a VPN and you should be fine 18:53:34 From iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "I’m less worried about the database than I am wher...": If your were super high up in leadership but there’s so many of us and were “nobody” to the powerful. 18:53:45 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": And as for the whole "impeach trump" thing, that won't be nearly enough. I think someone mentioned it earlier. He isn't the cause of all of this. There needs to be massive changes. The republican party needs to be outright banned in my opinion. Dain - GSUS, Jackie Burt:❤️ Dain - GSUS:👏 18:53:48 From annpollack to Everyone: How long do you expect it to take to reach the 11million? 18:54:21 From iPhone to Everyone: Volunteer healthcare -I would do that 18:54:26 From Morgan to Everyone: Replying to "I’m less worried about the database than I am wher...": We have been concerned about that as well. We certainly allow anonymous names and people keeping their identity hidden. Our topic coming up (probably next week) is going to revisit keeping your identity safe online. 18:54:35 From Jackie Burt to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": Along with Fox News phil:👍 iPhone:💯 18:54:39 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "I’m less worried about the database than I am wher...": That isn’t so much my worry, it’s more that if the AI is accessed than strategy is known. Organizing is almost always done in secret, the element of surprise matters a lot. Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):💯 18:54:41 From Dain - GSUS to Everyone: Replying to "How long do you expect it to take to reach the 11m...": How long do you expect it to take to reach the 11million? some projections say 2028, but theyre non exponential. It all depends on how outreach goes to be honest 18:54:49 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: Replying to "@Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) How could som...": https://linktr.ee/generalstrikeus https://linktr.ee/gsusresources 18:55:31 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: Replying to "@Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) How could som...": https://discord.gg/gsus 18:55:48 From J to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": I would agree, but that might not be achievable in the immediate term of a strike 18:55:56 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Has anyone got connections to union leaders who know how to create this support? This is why they have dues of course, but that would be tougher with this type of group. Heather, Elisabeth :❤️ iPhone:💯 18:55:56 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: Replying to "@Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) How could som...": The discord is very chaotic, feel free to ask "where do I find _?" 18:56:55 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "if people getting rights is enough to cause some c...": We need to make sure that the republicans and their voters don't just install another dictator into power. We don't want to end up back at square one Malinda, annpollack, J:👍 18:57:51 From J to Everyone: Replying to "@Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) How could som...": Thanks for the info, I joined the discord! 18:57:59 From Allison Shaw to Everyone: The chat is way too long to sift through 18:58:07 From pmgibson to Everyone: is this not on Youtube? 18:59:54 From Mary to Everyone: Saturday, May 31st 19:00:01 From Malinda to Everyone: I think a lot of us are multitasking Mary:👍 19:00:25 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: @Morgan there’s an indivisible group called NWSOFA run by Bill…I forgot his last name but he has an ai program that is able to transcribe the entire chat and “summarize” some sections he may be able to give you more ideas? He runs the unhappy happy hour every morning, eastern time 10am Morgan:👍 19:00:42 From Sandy- 3702 to Everyone: Upcoming boycott dates include May 6-12 for Amazon, May 20-26 for Walmart, and June 3-9 for Target, among others. 19:01:34 From Allison Shaw to Everyone: I wondered what the heck that bougeoius demand meant, thanks for translating J:💯 Lauri Lynnxe Murphy:😂 19:01:58 From phil to Everyone: we need a massive voting rights bill that'll ban gerrymandering and help end voter suppression, among other things. Elisabeth , Michele Bertholf:❤️ Mary:👍 19:02:01 From J to Everyone: Replying to "I wondered what the heck that bougeoius demand mea...": We really need to avoid academic/niche language like that 😅 Malinda:👍 19:02:20 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: YES! It’s time to raise class consciousness, that’s the way we can grow this coalition! Elisabeth :❤️ Malinda:🤩 19:02:35 From iPhone (3) to Everyone: We shouldn’t use words like bourgeois. Speaking plainly to people will reach more people. J, Cary Morgan:💯 19:03:19 From Cary Morgan to Everyone: Replying to "We shouldn’t use words like bourgeois. Speaking pl...": Agreed, the right has mastered simple messaging and it has been massively successful Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT), Malinda:💯 19:03:39 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "we need a massive voting rights bill that'll ban g...": Sadly we had that…no way to get it passed now, but it might be achievable on a state level to start with! 19:03:57 From Melissa to Everyone: Replying to "We shouldn’t use words like bourgeois. Speaking pl...": We need Schoolhouse Rocks back! Lauri Lynnxe Murphy:❤️ 19:04:13 From Jeanette Baust to Everyone: This list presented speaks to far left and young. Those who say, "Who cares?" well ... that tells me how broad and open you want to be. There is also no conversation with pro democracy, pro-union, pro-constitution. Those groups represent 40-95 year olds who are turning out in large numbers, going to town halls, inundating Congress people. If those here do not fear tyranny and the dismantling of federal govt, please know that MAGA is thrilled that many on the left want to see decentralized & leaderless and radical groups that want to do away with democracy and private industry. It plays to MAGA shutting down voting & already beginning to disappear, arrest, deport & spend billions on way more prisons. There is nothing new under the sun friends. Every communist revolution has started with "the workers" & a "classless society" ... and Putin & Xi would be thrilled to hear about dissolving democracy and making money... dissolving military, etc. I'm for "we the people" that means ALL! iPhone, joan brookhyser:👌 phil, Jeanette Baust:👏 19:04:15 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "We shouldn’t use words like bourgeois. Speaking pl...": I also worry about what some communists label as "bourgeois." I suppose it's mainly tankies doing it, but still. Some progressive policies they'd label as "bourgeois" degeneracy. J:💯 19:04:20 From iPhone to Everyone: Agreed. We don’t need everyone to strike. Michele Bertholf, Elisabeth :👍 19:04:47 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "We shouldn’t use words like bourgeois. Speaking pl...": @Cary Morgan this is the left’s biggest problem! We need to get much smarter about language - and also stop using THEIR language, which lets them frame the debate. 19:04:53 From iPhone to Everyone: Stop spending money on non essentias if you can’t strike. D Mary:👍 19:05:01 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: 100% Irowe, and we acknowledge that, and not everyone has to strike, in fact many people can't, because of children etc, it may make more sense for them to stay working, and participate other ways Elisabeth :👍 Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT), J:💯 19:05:17 From Mary to Everyone: Successful sit-ins and strikes enroll people who can sustain the strike without having to go to work. The successful Winooski 44 sit-in in 1984 was so because those who sat-in were prepared to do so as long as necessary. Lauri Lynnxe Murphy:❤️ Elisabeth :👍 19:05:34 From Michele Bertholf to Everyone: Yes—and more people will be caring for family members if Medicaid is cut Mary:👍 19:05:34 From J to Everyone: Replying to "We shouldn’t use words like bourgeois. Speaking pl...": Yeah, I feel like 'bourgeois" has pretty bad vibes for what we're trying to accomplish 19:05:34 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: Adding to strike funds, providing other education, art resources, etc 19:05:47 From Cary Morgan to Everyone: Replying to "We shouldn’t use words like bourgeois. Speaking pl...": @Lauri Lynnxe Murphy Very well said 19:05:52 From iPhone to Everyone: People who can’t strike can support others. Perhaps the people who are striking can watch other people kids that are going to work in exchange for support Elisabeth , Mary:❤️ David, Soc of Oligarch Billionaires (SOBs):💖 19:06:01 From Jenna Robbins to Everyone: What about discussion starters going to general public events? Also i put a sign on the back of my house that says this is not normal resist!. Just so people that drive by can see it. Anything to pass the word. Elisabeth , Mary:❤️ 19:06:05 From iPhone to Everyone: We will figure it out. 19:06:24 From Beth’s iPhone to Everyone: Replying to "We shouldn’t use words like bourgeois. Speaking pl...": Trumpers lie. Dems don’t. It’s a matter of ethics. We are at a disadvantage. iPhone:❤️ 19:06:33 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: And we are developing more streamlined ways to get education to people about making these informed choices 19:06:42 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": Well said - it’s great to want to work towards “leaderless” concepts, but it isn’t that practical, and leads to burnout. This is about all of us, we have to avoid niches. 19:06:42 From iPhone to Everyone: We are stepping into the unknown. That’s scary. You don’t have to see the whole staircase. Just take the first step in faith. Lauri Lynnxe Murphy:❤️ Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):💯 19:07:42 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "We shouldn’t use words like bourgeois. Speaking pl...": @Beth’s iPhone Dem’s 100% lie. We have to stop thinking in this sports team mentality - it isn’t left versus right anymore, if we want to win. Malinda:💯 19:07:47 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "we need a massive voting rights bill that'll ban g...": One of the demands should be to either get this bill passed or force enough republicans to resign, and give democrats a majority in congress. If the senate filibuster is a concern, they could just force a rule change in the chamber, like they did in 2013 and like they tried to do with a voting rights bill in 2022. In the end, parliamentary technicalities shouldn't matter if we are enough of a threat to the economy. J, Jeanette Baust:👍 19:09:15 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "we need a massive voting rights bill that'll ban g...": I mean, I’m with you on what you want, but I don’t see any way that will happen. The Dems have no power, and the Republicans are lock-step. It’s still a good thing to want, but as a demand it could lead to failure. 19:09:33 From iPhone to Everyone: From a spiritual perspective. We are one. When you harm others you harm yourself. That’s something people are starting to understand until we change our consciousness around that we will have more of the same. I think we need a spiritual awakening in addition to taking practical actions to work for a better world. Elisabeth , Honora Wolfe, phil, Jeanette Baust, Michele Bertholf:❤️ 19:09:40 From Cary Morgan to Everyone: Replying to "We shouldn’t use words like bourgeois. Speaking pl...": @Lauri Lynnxe Murphy Yes, we need to focus on equal accountability so that everyone faces consequences when they act in bad faith. Sen. Menéndez went to jail for accepting bribes, meanwhile it’s a grounds for promotion on the right. 19:10:57 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: Replying to "From a spiritual perspective. We are one. When you...": Like MLK said power without love is reckless and love without power is naive, 🩵 love for one another will win out, just a matter of putting it to a strategy Lauri Lynnxe Murphy, Jeanette Baust:❤️ 19:11:08 From Jeanette Baust to Everyone: Effective strikes may well be like Tesla ... targeted and can be relatively short and called off and on. We have to study history. Communitarian societies & communes were huge & utopian. Learn what happened to them? There are 330 million of us... unless the goal is to break into small communities that are self sustaining? Lauri Lynnxe Murphy:❤️ 19:11:36 From iPhone to Everyone: VPN is the best way to protect yourself-to my understanding 19:11:55 From Jeanette Baust to Everyone: So how does vetting take place? 19:11:57 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": Whenever people start shouting "working class" or "proletariat" or "bourgeois," I immediately become suspicious. For some of these people, it feels a bit like if you're "working class," you're automatically good, even if you're a klansmen, but the moment you have a little bit of money, you're immediately met with suspicion even if you're a good person 19:12:20 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: (the Massachusetts one takes at least 90 minutes, addition probably because of in person factors) 19:12:50 From iPhone to Everyone: Also, there being so many of us. We’re like ants, there’s so many of us. Elisabeth :❤️ 19:13:06 From Story (FightTheDystopia, they/them) to Everyone: Everyone has to learn to recognize and call that out. For everyone's safety. 19:13:44 From Georgette Wallace to Everyone: Replying to "From a spiritual perspective. We are one. When you...": I agree completely with you. We have to change on a fundamental level, a paradigm shift bottom line, or nothing changes. Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):🩵 19:14:24 From lrowe to Everyone: Replying to "From a spiritual perspective. We are one. When you...": 😀 19:14:25 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "we need a massive voting rights bill that'll ban g...": I think with a general strike, you're sort of able to demand whatever you want, even if it's technically not allowed. I think if there was enough threat to the nation's economy, they'd be willing to bend a few rules to get us to stop 19:14:31 From Elisabeth to Everyone: Thank you to everyone that spoke! 19:15:01 From iPhone to Everyone: I think we need face to face relationships. Not knocking that idea at all. But having fun events and inviting people David, Soc of Oligarch Billionaires (SOBs):💖 19:16:34 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": @phil but we need things that everyone can get behind, and the fact is, 99% of the country is actually “working class”, even if they see themselves differently. If you have a job, you’re working class. The other words are very outdated and too academic. But if you look at Bernie & AOC’s Stop Oligarchy tour, they got those huge numbers by using that framework. 19:16:35 From lrowe to Everyone: Thanks for an interesting meeting. Keep it goin' Malinda:👍 19:16:43 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: Replying to "I think we need face to face relationships. Not kn...": Agreed, virtual is great but face to face is also vip, some of the previous movements I’m studying have bounced back and forth between the two of them, though back then their idea of virtual was “pamphlets” made up on mimeograph machines (the predecessor of scanner/copier machines) :) 19:17:32 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "I think we need face to face relationships. Not kn...": Virtual is important because it’s inclusive, but in-person builds better relationships… Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):💯 19:18:00 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: Replying to "I think we need face to face relationships. Not kn...": Everything in life is a balancing game, this is no different 19:18:10 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: When people sneak into groups, generally their idea is to start violence, so people will turn away from the group as a whole. Especially at protests. 19:18:37 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "I think we need face to face relationships. Not kn...": I always think both is good! Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):🩵 19:19:09 From iPhone to Everyone: It’s important to be discerning, but we can’t let fear control us. Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT), NORA EVANS:💯 19:19:34 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": I see what you're saying, but we need to ensure that there aren't bad people in the movement, even if they are "working class." I don't think many marginalized people would be willing to make nice with the neighborhood racist or homophobe for the sake of class solidarity. 19:20:16 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "we need a massive voting rights bill that'll ban g...": But if you don’t ask for something achievable, you get nothing. I don’t know if this is the particular moment where a strike will be seen as a “threat to the nation’s economy”, since they are dying to replace us all with AI…it’s truly an unprecedented time for that reason. 19:20:20 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: Replying to "It’s important to be discerning, but we can’t let ...": Courage, the act of being brave when your scared as hell 🩵 we’re getting there, I’ve seen some of the most shy people I know start to get involved, that protestor sign at no kings day said it best as I see it “ things are so bad even the introverts are here” 😅 Lauri Lynnxe Murphy, Melissa:❤️ 19:20:26 From Heather to Everyone: This is so frustrating. Republicans know the power of “single issue voting”. But here we want to try to have all the demands we have ever thought of. This is so frustrating. And why we lose! Lauri Lynnxe Murphy, Morgan, NORA EVANS:❤️ 19:20:58 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": As a trans man I’d be very concerned about my well being at that point Lauri Lynnxe Murphy:❤️ phil:👍 19:21:01 From J to Everyone: Replying to "we need a massive voting rights bill that'll ban g...": very good point @Lauri Lynnxe Murphy 19:21:01 From Jeanette Baust to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": AOC is a great example. I think many who want to go leaderless and put down making money or having money are not talking to and dealing with the vast majority of America that AOC is speaking to. I hope for Compassion, justice, and yes reforming and living up to good laws ... not scrapping everything that's come before. J:👍 19:21:23 From G M to Everyone: DEMS MUST MOVE FAST TO AIM AT BEING A MAJORITY BY BRINGING IN THE EDGE GROUPS AND EXPAND THE UNDER 60 AGE SEGMENTS NOW‼️ pmgibson:❤️ 19:21:33 From J to Everyone: Replying to "we need a massive voting rights bill that'll ban g...": I think we still can, but it might be a closing window 19:21:52 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": I also worry about some of the workerist language used by some leftists, insinuating that the future holds a lifetime of working at a job you loathe. I align a bit more with anarchy, though 19:22:20 From Cary Morgan to Everyone: It’s less about illegal actions under surveillance, in my case I work for a company that massively bent the knee preemptively and cut ALL minority, gender, every kind of employee group and program so I don’t really have faith that if my name got associated with a list like that then I could end up in a tough spot. Lauri Lynnxe Murphy, J:👍 19:22:22 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: I think people’s fears are very normal and real. They’re disappearing people for “normal things” - and ultimately they can say whatever they want, as they’ve shown. It’s ok to be afraid - I almost don’t trust people who aren’t! J, Cary Morgan:💯 19:23:30 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "we need a massive voting rights bill that'll ban g...": to me, if the demands are limited to the point where it won't do much, then I don't know if there's much point in striking at all 19:24:23 From J to Everyone: Replying to "we need a massive voting rights bill that'll ban g...": basically we need a specific set of criteria for a "demand" for the general strike 19:24:41 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": @Jeanette Baust I will say unfortunately my step father has voted Trump, three strikes. But he as long as I’ve known him has tended to remain independent/centrist he’s like a conglomeration of all government styles (we’ll skip the fact that we’ve been working towards that but the Republican Party has road blocked the majority of benefits) anyway he mentioned his concern with AOC is her relationship to Bernie makes him believe that she would be 100% socialist versus a melting pot of government styles 🤦🏻‍♂️ so, while I agree with AOC centrists like him may not go for it 19:24:55 From J to Everyone: Replying to "we need a massive voting rights bill that'll ban g...": the "SMART" framework of specific, measurable, applicable, relevant, and timely might be a good starting point 19:25:57 From Jeanette Baust to Everyone: Replying to "we need a massive voting rights bill that'll ban g...": If upholding this democracy simply collapses, millions and millions will be in chaos & a world of pain. I will work all I can to not let this happen because the most marginalized will be the most hurt. If we fall to tyranny and lose voting altogether, then ... we will have to discuss all kinds of alternatives. iPhone, Melissa:❤️ 19:26:44 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": @phil every single woman has had to work endlessly with people who could or even have harmed them to organize, you have NO IDEA. You cannot avoid it - if we want to reach 3.5%, we may have to work with people we hate around a common goal. But the GOOD people need to be sure to protect EVERYONE. Also, I agree that “none of us dream of labor” - but we have to find the language that speaks to the most people, that’s my point. Unfortunately, workers are kind of the opposite of the oligarchy…I don’t know different language for it though. iPhone:❤️ Malinda:💘 19:26:56 From Lilly to Everyone: Will the digital safety be next week at the same time 19:27:08 From Lilly to Everyone: Id like to share it with another group NORA EVANS, Jeanette Baust:👍 19:27:38 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": @iPhone I’ve seen that, and as someone who loves philosophy, I recall either Socrates or Aristotle…possibly Plato (yea I’m doing good with this explanation haha😅) made many remarks how sex workers should not be held accountable legally speaking for using their bodies solely to survive, (it was in regards to abortion and freedom to work in the industry that they could at the time) he felt everyone deserved the chance at life or at that point likely just survival considering the collapsing capitalism at the time 19:27:42 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": @Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) those are exactly the people we need the consciousness raising for! ;-) 19:27:56 From Morgan to Everyone: Replying to "Id like to share it with another group": Yes Lilly:💙 19:29:23 From Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT) to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": While I agree, me personally has no familial support for myself and my kids, I’m also a surviving parent so there is no alternative if I end up uhmmm in life threatening scenarios :/ phil:👍 19:29:54 From Georgette Wallace to Everyone: Incremental steps have to be identified. Too much too fast won’t be sustained. iPhone, J, Lauri Lynnxe Murphy:❤️ 19:30:23 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": @Lauri Lynnxe Murphy I don't think we should sacrifice progressive's safety for the sake of getting as many people as possible, as that'd just drive away people that are already in the movement. I think we have more than enough good progressive people to meet that 3.5% goal, and we should work to reach those people instead of extending the olive branch to potentially terrible people 19:30:51 From Jeanette Baust to Everyone: Replying to "we need a massive voting rights bill that'll ban g...": I certainly agree with those of you who say we need clear goals, principles. No argument from me. I think positive and inspirational is essential going forward and seeing that everybody matters. That's why "A world or society caring for everyone" works as a foundation for me. I find that I've appealed to people on democracy and fairness and the golden rule & then conversations and attitudes have shifted on Gaza, immigrants, climate change. A given for me is :no enemies" & "no hate". Does that fit for some of you? Tristen Jayce (He/Him Plainfield CT):👍 19:30:55 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": and the workerist part that i mentioned wasn't really a response to you, but rather just a thought i had with regard to some of the language some leftists might use Lauri Lynnxe Murphy:👍 19:31:16 From SUSAN MACLAREN to Everyone: I’m working on a much smaller scale, trying to get people from the couch to take some small action as a way to propel them into the streets and therefore into a movement. You can check out the newsletter I’m working on here: https://heywhatcanido.com/ 19:31:49 From phil to Everyone: is there an agenda for next week? 19:31:56 From NORA EVANS to Everyone: My goal is to overthrow the government and save democracy. Everything else can be addressed after that Elisabeth , Cary Morgan:❤️ 19:32:00 From pmgibson to Everyone: Did Dane come to educate us? Why are we discussing what GSUS should be doing? 19:32:09 From phil to Everyone: Replying to "is there an agenda for next week?": I'd like to share this on reddit again 19:32:12 From Michele Bertholf to Everyone: Thank you! Good meeting ✌️🌟 19:32:17 From annpollack to Everyone: Thank you, Dain! 19:32:22 From Kathie’s to Everyone: Thank you! 19:32:23 From Georgette Wallace to Everyone: Thank you for the ongoing education! 19:32:27 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Replying to "This list presented speaks to far left and young. ...": @phil if you study where that number comes from, Dr. Chenowith addresses this issue. The fact is, the left loses again and again because of endless gatekeeping - the idea of solidarity transcends individual issues. 19:32:28 From Elisabeth to Everyone: Thank you! 19:32:31 From Broxi to Everyone: Thank you 19:32:36 From Morgan to Everyone: We don't publish an agenda ahead of time. Usually just the topic. 19:32:41 From Lauri Lynnxe Murphy to Everyone: Thank you! 19:32:46 From pat to Everyone: Thanks 19:33:18 From Morgan to Everyone: Right now, I do believe the identity protection topic will be next week. It might be subject to change. Look for the email coming out before the next meeting for more information 19:33:29 From Tom Simpleman to Everyone: Thank you. Thank you for keeping people on topic. It was GOOG